Multiple Certificates Required?

Started by rdtmk5 · Aug 13, 2015 · 6 replies

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    rdtmk5

    Aug 13, 2015 · 10y ago

    Original post

    Scenario: I obtain a CCCPD for a subcontract valued at >$700K. I then increase the value of the subcontract by $200K. Do I need another CCCPD? Of course this assumes that none of the TINA exceptions apply.

    Many thanks for your help.

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    Jacques

    Aug 13, 2015 · 10y ago · edited 10y ago

    More facts please. Is this one action or two? Toward substantiating your answer, do you have a date of agreement on price that both parties have honored and will continue to honor for the first action?

    EDIT: The possibility I’m trying to eliminate is that you have only one contract action and the sub has not, in fact, provided accurate, current and complete cost or pricing data to support the entire action.

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    joel hoffman

    Aug 13, 2015 · 10y ago

    Assuming that you are a prime to the sub, why did you obtain the first certificate and what was the reason for the increase ?

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    Retreadfed

    Aug 13, 2015 · 10y ago

    rdtmk, you need to set forth a chronology of events to explain what happened. What you have written so far is very confusing and vague. Also, is the prime contract FFP or flexibly priced?

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Aug 13, 2015 · 10y ago

    This is a question that a literate person could answer for himself or herself by reading FAR 15.403-4.

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    rdtmk5

    Aug 13, 2015 · 10y ago

    Thank you, Vern.

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    Jacques

    Aug 14, 2015 · 10y ago

    rdtmk5, you may want to keep in mind the following. The Price Reduction for Defective Certified Cost or Pricing Data—Modifications clause at FAR 52.215-11 provides, at para ( b )(3), “If any price…negotiated in connection with any modification under this clause…was increased by any significant amount because…any of these parties [the prime or a subcontractor] furnished data of any description that were not accurate, the price or cost shall be reduced accordingly….” Para ( b ) applies when the modification of the PRIME contract exceeds the TINA threshold. Under para (d)(1)(iv) of the clause the Contractor agrees not to raise as a defense that the subcontractor did not submit a Certificate of Current Cost or Pricing Data. The clause at 52.215-10 contains the same language.

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