Experience with VAO, other similar websites
Started by prodigalko · Sep 10, 2015 · 16 replies
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prodigalko
Sep 10, 2015 · 10y ago
I wanted to see if anyone has any experience or comments on the Virtual Acquisition Office (VAO) website from ASI. Specifically the quality of the templates, training, and updates. I am looking for feedback and opinions including those on any competitors. Thank you.
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prodigalko
Sep 10, 2015 · 10y ago
To give a little background I have access to the legal databases through my school (Westlaw, Lexis, Bloomberg). Other than access to the Public Contracts Journal and the Nash & Cibinic report Westlaw does not seem to specialize in government contracts. I have not found anything on Lexis. Bloomberg - which also the only one that continues access through the summer and encourages professional non-academic use - does have a government contracts section and daily update of recently decided cases or news.
The main difference that I see from these databases is that VAO is government contract specific and is designed for individuals that are largely not attorneys. Also, it provides more assistance with templates for various types of acquisitions and training.
There is some overlap with GSA's new Common Acquisition Platform, but because that website is free to the government, I do not see any reason that they cannot be used concurrently if possible (assuming the cost of VAO is worth it).
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leo1102
Sep 10, 2015 · 10y ago
I use VAO for news and updates and to take training towards my every two year 80 CLP requirement. It is free to Govt employees - just register and enjoy.
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Don Mansfield
Sep 10, 2015 · 10y ago
I use both Westlaw and Intelliconnect by Wolters Kluwer. Besides having the Nash & Cibinic e-Series (all their books in electronic format) Intelliconnect has a good weekly newsletter (Government Contracts Reporter) and a well-organized research section. I recommend both databases highly.
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Moderator
Sep 10, 2015 · 10y ago
Don:
How much does Westlaw and Interconnect cost a year. Is the government paying for it?
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Don Mansfield
Sep 10, 2015 · 10y ago
I don't know how much they cost. The Government is paying for it. I get it through the DAU library.
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Moderator
Sep 10, 2015 · 10y ago
If anyone wants to do a search on a relatively expensive service, your agency's Office of General Counsel more than likely has the service.
An alternative is to check with your agency's library. Sometimes, they are linked to the various electronic services your agency has.
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Boof
Sep 10, 2015 · 10y ago
Back to the orginal question about VAO. We bought a subscription for all our CO/CS and contract hire contract specialists (265). Some use it a lot and some very little . It has great checklists for ensuring specialists do not forget anything they need to do before award. In fact the checklists are so inclusive that our personnel cannot believe they are supposed to verify and justify so many items before award. I want to mandate their use but the director is not comfortable with doing that yet.
VAO has pulled the best templates and document samples from across the Government and can save a specialist a lot of time if they are inexperienced in writing many of our myriad of decision documents. They have very well written reports and analysis of current policies, procedures and recent FAR changes. As part of the subscription they will research up to 3 hours on any topic you ask them to report on. If it is something they think has broad applicability, they will do a full research paper on it and publish for all. They also publish all questions asked. VAO really helps as an outsourced resource for management and procedure assistance.
The webinars and training are accurate but they are one hour snipets. They also allow personnel to answer quizes on current changes for CLPS. The questions are hard so they are not give aways. YOu can gain valuable CLPs that way though. I am level III already so any CLP is a good CLP in my book.
Their subscriptions are by organization with a basic cost for the hookup and set number of licenses. Added licenses are lower in cost. Pricing is off a Library of Congress contract that we award delivery orders against. They also have a lower cost COR Toolkit with just the items CORs need. We have about 800 CORs licensed. I don't think they have a way to buy just one license at a reasonable cost but they may. You need to contact them directly.
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prodigalko
Sep 11, 2015 · 10y ago
Thanks for all the responses. While I like the legal databases I think they may be more appropriate for higher dollar or more complex work than my agency typically sees. We largely see general not close questions.
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Guest Vern Edwards
Sep 11, 2015 · 10y ago
To give a little background I have access to the legal databases through my school (Westlaw, Lexis, Bloomberg). Other than access to the Public Contracts Journal and the Nash & Cibinic report Westlaw does not seem to specialize in government contracts.
prodigalko:
I guess you gave little background about Westlaw because you don't know much about Westlaw. Westlaw has a HUGE database on Government contracting. Aside from PUBCONLJ and Nasn & Cibinic Report, the database includes several other periodicals dedicated to Government contracting, such as The Government Contractor, and entire treatises, such as Nash and Feldman, Government Contract Changes, and Manos, Government Contract Costs and Pricing, and many, many others. Many thousands of pages. It also provides some access to Commerce Clearing House publications.
Full disclosure -- I'm paid to write for Westlaw's owner, Thomson Reuters.
I don't know anything about VAO, but then I'm not big on templates and document samples and would probably publicly ridicule anyone who tried to make me use them. I believe in learning by thinking. Checklists might be okay, although you'll learn more by developing your own. But if you need templates and document samples, maybe VAO is a good resource.
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prodigalko
Sep 11, 2015 · 10y ago
Vern:
Thanks for the suggestions and information on Westlaw. I endeavor to increase the maturity (In an OPM3 sense) of the office and progress from basic to close questions; which I hope will make those types of resources more appropriate.
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Weno2
Sep 11, 2015 · 10y ago
VAO is a good resource. Their monthly webinars (Update - Key Acquisition Developments) are helpful and a good way to learn CLPs, and VAO's research papers are also a good resource.
I know of agencies in which templates (e.g., Justification and Approval, KO Determination to Exercise Option) are mandatory and treats a change/alteration as a deviation according to FAR 1.403 -- Individual Deviations.
Therefore, 'learning by thinking' may not be a concept encouraged by some procurement managers.
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Guest Vern Edwards
Sep 11, 2015 · 10y ago
There is no question that some managers do not encourage learning by thinking.
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Jamaal Valentine
Sep 24, 2015 · 10y ago
All:
I emailed VAO an inquiry about subscriptions on or about 9/10/15. I'm haven't received a response to-date.
Don:
I checked the DAU Ackers library. Are the resources you mentioned available to all?
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Don Mansfield
Sep 24, 2015 · 10y ago
Jamaal,
I don't know. If there's something you want to get into but can't, send me a private message and I'll see what's up.
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Jamaal Valentine
Sep 24, 2015 · 10y ago
Thank you!
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Boof
Sep 24, 2015 · 10y ago
Try customercare@asigovt.com. I am sure they would like to sell more licenses.