What does FAR 16.505(a)(7)(iii) mean?

Started by foxyrock · Oct 19, 2015 · 8 replies

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    foxyrock

    Oct 19, 2015 · 10y ago

    Original post

    My boss insists that FAR 16.505(a)(7)(iii) means that you are allowed to publish the IGCE in a Task Order Solicitation. I wholeheartedly disagree with him. I believe the items listed under FAR 16.505(a)(7) relate to when the actual order is to be placed and makes no mention of IGCE.

    Please advise.

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    ji20874

    Oct 19, 2015 · 10y ago

    You're right -- that citation refers to orders. The requirements for solicitations are listed in FAR 16.505( b )( 1 )( iii )( B )( 1 ) and ( iv )( A ), where the solicitations are called notices.

    However, nothing in FAR 16.505 prohibits you from releasing the IGCE with the solicitation. Sometimes, it might make good business sense to release the bottom-line IGCE with a solicitation.

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    Navy_Contracting_4

    Oct 19, 2015 · 10y ago

    FAR 16.505(a)(7)(iii) merely says:

    (7) Orders placed under indefinite-delivery contracts must contain...

    ...

    (iii) For supplies and services, contract item number and description, quantity, and unit price or estimated cost or fee.

    ...

    This paragraph has nothing to do with IGCEs or solicitations.

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    Retreadfed

    Oct 19, 2015 · 10y ago

    Foxyrock, have you checked your agency FAR Supp to see if it requires the IGE to be included in solicitations?

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    foxyrock

    Oct 19, 2015 · 10y ago

    Foxyrock, have you checked your agency FAR Supp to see if it requires the IGE to be included in solicitations?

    @Retreadfed...we do not have a FAR Supp or other agency regs.

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    joel hoffman

    Oct 19, 2015 · 10y ago

    My boss insists that FAR 16.505(a)(7)(iii) means that you are allowed to publish the IGCE in a Task Order Solicitation. I wholeheartedly disagree with him. I believe the items listed under FAR 16.505(a)(7) relate to when the actual order is to be placed and makes no mention of IGCE.

    Please advise.

    foxy, if the task order is for construction, 36.203 ( c ) would override 16.505. If the task is for design-build, the government could and often should identify the budget limit (36.302) . If there is a statutory limit, the government must disclose it per 36.205.

    Edit: For construction tasks, it doesn't matter whether or not FAR 16.505(a)(7)(iii) refers to IGCE's or solicitations (even though I agree that it doesn't ). FAR 36.2 does apply.

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Oct 19, 2015 · 10y ago

    All these posts, just to sort out someone who cannot read plain English, but was made the boss of other people.

    Amazing.

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    joel hoffman

    Oct 20, 2015 · 10y ago

    All these posts, just to sort out someone who cannot read plain English, but was made the boss of other people.

    Amazing.

    Yep, and I admit that I didn't even read the context of the referenced FAR paragraph in the question before answering. Sheesh.

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    joel hoffman

    Oct 21, 2015 · 10y ago

    Deleted.

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