Signing actions above warrant authority?

Started by justin.wilson · Feb 28, 2017 · 60 replies

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    justin.wilson

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Original post

    I have recently transitioned to a new agency and have been surprised by a local policy that states "As a general rule, the contract specialist originating a document signs it as the CO (Contracting Officer) after all required reviews."  In practice, this language is cited supporting the fact that a specialist (non-warrant holder) would actually sign contract actions, or a contracting officer may sign actions over their delegated warrant authority.  Now, one of the levels of review required would be from a Contracting Officer that holds the required warrant authority and they would be required to sign the review forms necessary.  Though, again, the ultimate government signatory may not actually have a warrant that covers the value of the action. 

    In speaking with our local policy official, it was explained that the rationale behind this approach is that the contract specialist whom is involved with the acquisition has a far greater knowledge base about the acquisition than a Contracting Officer whose only contribution is their warrant authority.  While I understand that point of view, it was always my belief that the Specialist/Officer dichotomy centered around the Contracting Officer keeping familiar at least in a general sense with their contract. The specialist is responsible for keeping the Contracting Officer aware of issues and potential complications. 

    Ultimately, I THINK I would be protected from personal liability if this practice was ever challenged in litigation as long as I am operating within established contracting office policy - but am not really sure.  The legal council for the office has apparently signed off on this practice, so that does alleviate some of my concern. 

    I consider myself a moderately seasoned contracting professional, and have always understood that you just do not sign actions that you do not have warrant authority to sign.  However, I certainly do not have a robust knowledge of the various agencies policies when it comes to warrant delegation. 

    I am curious if:

    (a) Anyone else operates under this type of structure?

    (b) If so, has it ever been challenged? 

    (c) General thoughts about this structure, such as does this approach fall within the purview of FAR 1.602-1(a) "Contracting officers may bind the Government only to the extent of the authority delegated to them. Contracting officers shall receive from the appointing authority (see 1.603-1) clear instructions in writing regarding the limits of their authority." Also, am I at risk for Unauthorized Commitments with every action I would be signing?

    I am consciously being vague about the agency/office just to avoid seeming accusatory, but suffice to say that agency FAR supplement does not address this - only the local policy does.  Sorry for the long post, but I thank you all in advance for any input.

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Is the policy in writing?

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    justin.wilson

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Apologies, yes it is in writing.

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Good. If they've issued a written policy, then what difference does it make what any of us thinks about it? What are you going to do if someone tells you it's a bad idea or that it's "illegal" or an unauthorized deviation from FAR (as someone almost certainly will)? I'm not trying to be rude, but my advice is to quit worrying or even wondering about it.

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    Don Mansfield

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    justin.wilson,

    Does anything prohibit the contracting officer from delegating their authority?

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    Todd Davis

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Very strange.

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    justin.wilson

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Vern Edwards said:

    Good. If they've issued a written policy, then what difference does it make what any of us thinks about it? What are you going to do if someone tells you it's a bad idea or that it's "illegal" or an unauthorized deviation from FAR (as someone almost certainly will)? I'm not trying to be rude, but my advice is to quit worrying or even wondering about it.

    Your response doesn't seem rude to me at all.  I don't plan on any whistleblowing or anything based upon responses here.  I suppose I was just interested in seeing if the practice was more common than it appeared to me.  Like I said, I am not at all rounded enough to know other contracting activities' policies and was thinking this forum may be able to provide some insight.  I also am very curious if somehow someone here has insight regarding the practice being challenged (whether in terms of contracting litigation or in HR aspects).  I know the HR aspect isn't exactly germane in this forum, but that was why I posted in the Contracting Workforce section.  Nonetheless, I appreciate your advice.

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    justin.wilson

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Don Mansfield said:

    justin.wilson,

    Does anything prohibit the contracting officer from delegating their authority?

    I suppose I am applying the simplistic view that authority to bind the Government is only delegable in the form of a warrant issued by the HCA (or whomever is assigned) and subject to the limitations stated within that warrant - so in that sense I would think the contracting officer is prohibited from delegating their authority.  Case in point, a Contracting Officer may appoint a COR, or a ACO, both of which would have to have their own warrants in order to legally bind the Government even acting in their delegated roles.  Although you raise an interesting point regarding a separate, documented delegation of signatory authority.  However, to Vern's point above, that is probably covered via the written policy.

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    Todd Davis

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Very strange.

    Only contracting officers can enter into and sign contracts on behalf of the Government and must be appointed in accordance with FAR 1.603 unless and HCA or above.  The appointing authority must give the contracting officer clear instructions regarding the limits his or her authority and the appointment must be in writing on a SF 1402.  A contracting officer cannot appoint another person as a contracting officer or delegate their authority to sign a contract, unless that CO is also the appointing authority for your office.

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    "Contracts may be entered into and signed on behalf of the Government only by contracting officers." (FAR 1.602)

    "Contracting officers below the level of a head of a contracting activity shall be selected and appointed under 1.603." (FAR 1.602)

    "Contracting officers have authority to enter into, administer, or terminate contracts and make related determinations and findings. Contracting officers may bind the Government only to the extent of the authority delegated to them. Contracting officers shall receive from the appointing authority (see 1.603-1) clear instructions in writing regarding the limits of their authority. Information on the limits of the contracting officers’ authority shall be readily available to the public and agency personnel."  (FAR 1.602-1)

    "Contracting officers shall be appointed in writing on an SF 1402, Certificate of Appointment, which shall state any limitations on the scope of authority to be exercised, other than limitations contained in applicable law or regulation."  (FAR 1.603-3)

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    Don Mansfield

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Todd Davis said:

    A contracting officer cannot appoint another person as a contracting officer or delegate their authority to sign a contract, unless that CO is also the appointing authority for your office.

    Where does it say that?

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    Todd Davis

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Don Mansfield said:

    Where does it say that?

    FAR Subpart 1.6 uses the term "appointing official."  That is the person(s) who appoints COs in writing on an SF 1402.  The appointing official may or may not be a CO.  Even if he or she is a CO, they are not exercising their CO authority, but rather the appointment authority delegated to them by their agency.

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    Don Mansfield

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Todd Davis said:

    FAR Subpart 1.6 uses the term "appointing official."  That is the person(s) who appoints COs in writing on an SF 1402.  The appointing official may or may not be a CO.  Even if he or she is a CO, they are not exercising their CO authority, but rather the appointment authority delegated to them by their agency.

    Ok, but where does it say what the CO can or cannot delegate?

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    Matthew Fleharty

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    The FAR Conventions, specifically FAR 1.108(b), may be helpful here:

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    Delegation of authority. Each authority is delegable unless specifically stated otherwise (see 1.102-4(b)).

    FAR 1.102-4(b) states:

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    The authority to make decisions and the accountability for the decisions made will be delegated to the lowest level within the System, consistent with law.

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    Todd Davis

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Don Mansfield said:

    Ok, but where does it say what the CO can or cannot delegate?

    The FAR specifically specifies who is "the appointing authority" and there is not a list of other positions or titles that have such authority.  So for a CO to have authority to designte another as a CO, they would have to be designated as an appointing authority within their agency.  Now I supposed that an agency could specify that any CO is also considered an appointing authority in their policy, but that doesn't sound like a good way to control the appointment of contracting officers.

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    Matthew Fleharty

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Todd,

    CO's can delegate their authority - do a search for "Field Ordering Officers" for one common example (http://www.acq.osd.mil/dpap/ccap/cc/jcchb/HTML/Topical/foo.html).

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    When I was with the Department of Energy I delegated authority to issue change orders up to $50,000 to my chief field inspectors. Naturally, I trained them properly.

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    Don Mansfield

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Todd,

    I get that the appointing authority is the one who can appoint someone a contracting officer on a SF 1402. However, all authorities in the FAR are delegable unless specifically stated otherwise (FAR 1.108(b)). So, if the FAR grants the contracting officer the authority to do something and is silent on whether the authority is delegable, why couldn't they delegate that authority? Do you think the delegate would also have to be appointed on a SF 1402?

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    Todd Davis

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    The OP asked about the authority to sign contract generally, even contracts over a CO's existing appointment authority or where there was no SF 1402 issued, not the appointment of ordering officials/officers.

    When I was in the Air Force I appointed ordering officials for decentralized BPAs.  I know that ordering authority can be delegated if permitted by regulation/policy, but that wasn't what the OP was describing.  Also, I didn't ready all of the FOO guidance, but it appears they are limited to mircopurchases and their appointment is specifically accomplished pursuant to agency policy.  While we don't have access to the OP policy in question, it appears it is not agency policy, but rather a local office policy.

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    Todd Davis

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Don Mansfield said:

    So, if the FAR grants the contracting officer the authority to do something and is silent on whether the authority is delegable, why couldn't they delegate that authority? Do you think the delegate would also have to be appointed on a SF 1402?

    So your telling me that if I have an unlimited appointment, the FAR permits me to delegate my authority to sign contracts of any amount to anyone?

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    Todd Davis

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Vern Edwards said:

    When I was with the Department of Energy I delegated authority to issue change orders up to $50,000 to my chief field inspectors. Naturally, I trained them properly.

    Vern, was this something expressly permitted by agency policy or was this something you already had the authority to delegate?

    FAR 1.602-2(d)(5) specifically prohibits a COR from even having the authority to "make any commitments or changes that affect price, quality, quantity, delivery, or other terms and conditions of the contract nor in any way direct the contractor or its subcontractors to operate in conflict with the contract terms and conditions."  It is interesting that a trained COR is not permitted to have such authority, but a trained chief field inspector would be.

    I think it is reasonable to delegate such authority where appropriate and the individuals are trained, provided it is consistent with the FAR and agency policy (if applicable).

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    Don Mansfield

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Todd,

    I'm not telling you anything. You asserted that FAR subpart 1.6 prohibited a certain type of delegation and asking for proof because I don't see it.

    If the FAR does not expressly prohibit a CO from delegating their authority to sign contracts of an amount within their authority, then why should we think it's prohibited?

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    Todd Davis

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    There is no such express prohibition at FAR subpart 1.6.  However, as I described earlier, in my opinion it clearly states who does have the authority to appoint a CO, the appointing official, not a contracting officer.  I don't believe that general delegation of authority permitted by FAR 1.108 has anything to do with the appointment of contracting officers since the issue is addressed by more specific policy at subpart 1.6.  Maybe I'm wrong and if so, I will learn.

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    Retreadfed

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Todd, do you see appointment as a contracting officer as being the same thing as a contracting officer delegating some of his/her authority to another?

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    Todd Davis

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Retreadfed said:

    Todd, do you see appointment as a contracting officer as being the same thing as a contracting officer delegating some of his/her authority to another?

    No.  I see them as separate things.

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    Retreadfed

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    If they are separate things, why could the contracting officer not do the latter if it is not prohibited by his/her warrant since the contracting officer is not appointing anyone as a CO??

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    Boof

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    This delegating the award of contracts to any Government Employee** you want defies my 18 years of contract training.  And lead to a helluva lot more chaos than we already have in my office. 

      ** Awards are inherently Governmental so contract hires would definitely be out.

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    Retreadfed

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Boof, the question before the house is not whether it is a good idea or a bad idea, but whether it is prohibited by something.

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Feb 28, 2017 · 9y ago

    Todd Davis said:

    Vern, was this something expressly permitted by agency policy or was this something you already had the authority to delegate?

    Well, I kind of cheated in my answer, because I was working for a bureau that was not subject to FAR and that did not use appropriated funds. Also, I got approval from the HCA. Sorry for the misleading response.

    Having admitted that much, I think that everyone should keep in mind that we haven't seen the policy and we don't know exactly what it says or at at what level it was authorized. While unconventional, and maybe unwise, I think that it goes too far to say that it is illegal or improper. I think that whether COs can delegate their authority is pretty much a matter of agency policy and procedure. I don't think that any CO anywhere can delegate his or her authority, but I'm sure that some COs at some agencies can do so.

    In short, I stick to my first response: Don't worry or wonder about it.

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    joel hoffman

    Mar 1, 2017 · 9y ago

    Todd Davis said:

    Very strange.

    Only contracting officers can enter into and sign contracts on behalf of the Government and must be appointed in accordance with FAR 1.603 unless and HCA or above.  The appointing authority must give the contracting officer clear instructions regarding the limits his or her authority and the appointment must be in writing on a SF 1402.  A contracting officer cannot appoint another person as a contracting officer or delegate their authority to sign a contract, unless that CO is also the appointing authority for your office.

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    "Contracts may be entered into and signed on behalf of the Government only by contracting officers." (FAR 1.602)

    "Contracting officers below the level of a head of a contracting activity shall be selected and appointed under 1.603." (FAR 1.602)

    "Contracting officers have authority to enter into, administer, or terminate contracts and make related determinations and findings. Contracting officers may bind the Government only to the extent of the authority delegated to them. Contracting officers shall receive from the appointing authority (see 1.603-1) clear instructions in writing regarding the limits of their authority. Information on the limits of the contracting officers’ authority shall be readily available to the public and agency personnel."  (FAR 1.602-1)

    "Contracting officers shall be appointed in writing on an SF 1402, Certificate of Appointment, which shall state any limitations on the scope of authority to be exercised, other than limitations contained in applicable law or regulation."  (FAR 1.603-3)

    That looks fairly straight forward. And for DOD, the minimum qualifications for a new KO below the senior agency level are established by Statute.

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Mar 1, 2017 · 9y ago

    It's interesting that of all the quotes from FAR in this thread I haven't seen this one from FAR 2.101:

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    “Contracting officer” means a person with the authority to enter into, administer, and/or terminate contracts and make related determinations and findings. The term includes certain authorized representatives of the contracting officer acting within the limits of their authority as delegated by the contracting officer.

    I apologize in case it was quoted and I missed it.

    With respect to the policy under discussion, as far as I know none of us has seen it and know little about, it except for one short quote:

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    As a general rule, the contract specialist originating a document signs it as the CO (Contracting Officer) after all required reviews.

    Titles 10 and 41 of the U.S.C. say very little about CO appointment procedures and very little more about the qualifications needed to be a CO. One does not have to meet very demanding statutory standards of schooling, knowledge (which is not the same as schooling), skill, or experience. I suspect that many GS-12s possess those qualifications, and some GS-11s. Maybe even some GS-09s. I saw nothing in the statutes requiring any badge or certificate of appointment.

    I saw nothing in FAR 1.603 that precludes waiver of its requirements, so the head of the contracting activity in many agencies can approve a class deviation with respect to its procedures, including the use of SF 1402.

    FAR 1.601 cites no statute in connection with its statement that contracts may be entered into and signed only by COs. The same is true of FAR 4.101, which states: "Only contracting officers shall sign contracts on behalf of the United States." Whiles some statutes require that some actions be taken by a contracting officer, such as a final decision on a claim, I have found nothing in statute stating that contracts may be entered into and signed only by contracting officers. 10 USC 2305 says that the "agency head" shall award contracts and 41 USC 3703 says "the executive agency." I'm going through one of my periodic bouts of bad eyesight, so  I may have missed something, I'll keep looking.

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    justin.wilson

    Mar 1, 2017 · 9y ago

    Wow, I really appreciate all of the input.   It seems as though the focus has been on the Contracting Officer's ability to delegate signing of actions, which from what I am reading holds true.  Referring back to the original post, I was curious to see if anyone else has operated under this type of structure and, if so, was it ever challenged.  With 450 views of the post and no responses to that effect, it appears that the answers to those questions are "no".  Or, at least not from anyone with an Wifcon account to post replies.  I have done some searching for precedence with GAO, COFC, and CBCA but have not come up with anything directly relating.  If anyone does have any cases they know of, sharing would be appreciated. 

    From the perspective of the signer that does not hold the direct warrant authority, I would be nervous to sign my name to actions - and that is where the original post was generated from.  In a theoretical sense it seems as though that signer is protected from liability, but that is why I was curious of a real-world application of the practice. 

    Thanks again.

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Mar 1, 2017 · 9y ago

    justin.wilson said:

    I was curious to see if anyone else has operated under this type of structure and, if so, was it ever challenged.

    You'll never know the answer to that question, unless by "anyone" you meant "anyone reading this thread." In any case, Wifcon membership is a small percentage of the total population of contracting personnel, and active participants in the discussion board is a minuscule part of that membership. Who knows who else is doing what?

    Anyway, if it were wrong to do would you feel better and safer knowing that others are doing wrong as well?

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    joel hoffman

    Mar 1, 2017 · 9y ago

    Vern Edwards said:

    It's interesting that of all the quotes from FAR in this thread I haven't seen this one from FAR 2.101:

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    “Contracting officer” means a person with the authority to enter into, administer, and/or terminate contracts and make related determinations and findings. The term includes certain authorized representatives of the contracting officer acting within the limits of their authority as delegated by the contracting officer.

    I apologize in case it was quoted and I missed it.

    With respect to the policy under discussion, as far as I know none of us has seen it and know little about, it except for one short quote:

    Titles 10 and 41 of the U.S.C. say very little about CO appointment procedures and very little more about the qualifications needed to be a CO. One does not have to meet very demanding statutory standards of schooling, knowledge (which is not the same as schooling), skill, or experience. I suspect that many GS-12s possess those qualifications, and some GS-11s. Maybe even some GS-09s. I saw nothing in the statutes requiring any badge or certificate of appointment.

    I saw nothing in FAR 1.603 that precludes waiver of its requirements, so the head of the contracting activity in many agencies can approve a class deviation with respect to its procedures, including the use of SF 1402.

    FAR 1.601 cites no statute in connection with its statement that contracts may be entered into and signed only by COs. The same is true of FAR 4.101, which states: "Only contracting officers shall sign contracts on behalf of the United States." Whiles some statutes require that some actions be taken by a contracting officer, such as a final decision on a claim, I have found nothing in statute stating that contracts may be entered into and signed only by contracting officers. 10 USC 2305 says that the "agency head" shall award contracts and 41 USC 3703 says "he executive agency." I'm going through one of my periodic bouts of bad eyesight, so  I may have missed something, I'll keep looking.

    Vern, the extended definition of contracting officer in 2.101 is used in conjunction with COR's taking actions during administration of contracts. Many clauses and other contract specifications refer to actions that the "contracting officer" will take or respond to.  If the KO were to actually have to personally take all those actions on the hundreds of active contracts in a typical USACE District, they wouldn't have time for anything else.  Instead, they appoint COR's for contracts with copies furnished to the contractor. The appointment letters describe the extent and limits of their authority.  

    For instance, there used to be up to three or four COR's who were delegated certain specific signature duties on each construction contract before we had electronic contract admin systems with electronic signatures. 

    It was just a way for the KO to delegate administrative functions to CAB personnel in those cases. I approved final payments on construction contracts for the KO, as the (Acting) Chief of Construction, who was delegated that COR authority by position but was seldom in the office.  

    Im in a hotel room without access to a real computer at the moment,  But last night,  I read the 10 USC description of the Defense Acquisition Workforce Improvement Act qualification requirements for  KO's, which are much more than those prior to DAWIA. 

    I also was unable to find Statutory or DOD, Service, or Agency FAR Supplements or PGI, etc. in a brief search effort last night for KO appointment procedures. I've seen the USACE policies  and procedures for KO appointments before I retired but I don't have access to the Intranet at the moment.  Our ACO's have specific, limited Warrant authorities to modify contracts but not to enter into new contracts. Ordering Officers likewise have specific authorities.

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Mar 2, 2017 · 9y ago

    Joel:

    What's your point?

    Verm

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    joel hoffman

    Mar 2, 2017 · 9y ago

    Vern Edwards said:

    Joel:

    What's your point?

    Verm

    Vern, what was your point?

    1. You said that it was interesting that you hadn't seen the definition of contracting officer in 2.101. quoted in this thread.  I am explaining the context of the extended definition, as it pertains to COR's/ARCO's delegated certain KO functions in the administration of existing contracts. The FAR definition of KO that you referred to doesn't pertain to the OP's question  about a KO instructing a contract specialist to sign contracts as KO.

    The current version of clause 52.202-1 informs the contractor by reference that the term contracting officer is extended to those authorized representatives acting within their delegated authority. To my recollection, the same or similar definition of contracting officer used to be a separate clause in our contracts.  Our KO's identify the applicable authorized COR's and their specific authorities.  The method and clause language has changed but our organization has done that for at least 25 or more years. My guess is that when and/or after the FAR Council moved  many definitions to subpart 2.2, they simply referenced the FAR definition of KO. For DOD, DFARS 202.101 also defines the term COR. See also, DFARS clause 252.201-7000  Contracting Officer's Representative. The definition of contracting officer at 2.101 would lead to delegation of duties to authorized representatives of the KO to award or to sign contracts on behalf of the government.

    2. You said that that there was "very little more" mention of the qualifications for being appointed a KO in Titiles 10 and 41.  I believe that the DAWIA standards are codified in 10 USC 1724.  In addition, see DFARS 201.603  Selection, appointment, and termination of appointment for contracting officers. They are "very much more" than the previous minimum qualification standards for appointment.

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Mar 2, 2017 · 9y ago

    Joel:

    My point was that the FAR defines the term "contracting officer" to include people who have been delegated authority ("appointed") by a contracting officer. The term is not limited to those who have an SF 1402. The purpose of the FAR definition of CO is to state what that term means as used in the FAR. There is no "extended" definition of contracting officer. There is a definition. Period. The definition says what it says, and I see no reasonn to interpret it on any basis other than its plain language.

    Your point is that the FAR definition of CO doesn't pertain to the OP's question about a KO instructing a contract specialist to sign contracts as CO. Your vague recollections of the history of the definition in DOD and your references to the DFARS prove nothing of the sort.

    As for the DAWIA standards in 10 USC 1724... Please, don't make me laugh.

    Agency appointment standards, procedures, and management practices are all over the map. Most contracting personnel are really purchasing agents and glorified procurement clerks. I see no reason to be upset over what the OP's agency is doing. Lawyers and contracting geeks like me could raise issues, but most senior managers in government couldn't care less. There is so much paperwork that they just need people who can wield a pen. The more of them the better. There's nothing sacred about contracting officers anymore. Agencies have seen to that. Maybe there never was.

    Vern

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    joel hoffman

    Mar 2, 2017 · 9y ago

    Vern, the bold highlighted language in your earlier post refers to authorized representatives of the contracting officer, acting within their delegated authority. I assume that bold language is what you were focusing on.   The FAR and DFARS define what a contracting officer's representative is, who must act within their authorized authority. The FAR clause and DFARS clause that I referred to incorporate those definitions into the contract. Nothing in those definitions of a contracting officers representative would tell me that an authorized rep of the contracting officer can sign the contract.

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    joel hoffman

    Mar 2, 2017 · 9y ago

    Don, I'm beginning to think that this thread is a set-up, at least as far as DOD policy is concerned. Surely, DAU includes courses that cover the warranting process, qualifications and controls on appointments of DOD contracting officers below the Agency Heads, Heads of Contracting Activities and other senior level appointments and who can sign contracts for the government.

    I won't argue either way concerning what happens in non-DOD agencies.

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    Don Mansfield

    Mar 2, 2017 · 9y ago

    joel hoffman said:

    Don, I'm beginning to think that this thread is a set-up, at least as far as DOD policy is concerned. Surely, DAU includes courses that cover the warranting process, qualifications and controls on appointments of DOD contracting officers below the Agency Heads, Heads of Contracting Activities and other senior level appointments and who can sign contracts for the government.

    I won't argue either way concerning what happens in non-DOD agencies.

    joel,

    It's certainly not beneath me to start a thread that is a set-up, but this is not one of those instances. The OP did not say that he was in DoD, so I'm only paying attention to what the FAR says.

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Mar 2, 2017 · 9y ago

    joel hoffman said:

    Nothing in those definitions of a contracting officers representative would tell me that an authorized rep of the contracting officer can sign the contract.

    Joel: I don't care about the DFARS. this thread is about all agencies. If the DFARS prohibits what we're talking about, so be it.

    Here is the FAR definition of "contracting officer's representative":

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    “Contracting officer’s representative (COR)” means an individual, including a contracting officer’s technical representative (COTR), designated and authorized in writing by the contracting officer to perform specific technical or administrative functions.

    That doesn't tell me anything that a COR might be authorized to do. But an "administrative function" could include signing change orders, supplemental agreements, stop work orders, suspension of work orders, or changes to GFP. An agency head or HCA may authorize an individual or class deviation from FAR 1.602-2(d)(5).

    Here is the FAR coverage of CORs in 1.604:

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    1.604  Contracting Officer’s Representative (COR).

    A contracting officer’s representative (COR) assists in the technical monitoring or administration of a contract (see 1.602-2(d)). The COR shall maintain a file for each assigned contract. The file must include, at a minimum −

    (a) A copy of the contracting officer’s letter of designation and other documents describing the COR’s duties and responsibilities;

    (b) A copy of the contract administration functions delegated to a contract administration office which may not be delegated to the COR (see 1.602-2(d)(4)); and

    (c) Documentation of COR actions taken in accordance with the delegation of authority.

    Again, an administrative function could include signing a change order, a supplemental agreement, a stop work order or a suspension of work order, or a change to GFP. Again, an agency head or HCA may authorize an individual or class deviation from FAR 1.602-2(d)(5).

    Keep in mind that we're talking about departures from the norm.

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    joel hoffman

    Mar 3, 2017 · 9y ago

    joel hoffman said:

    I won't argue either way concerning what happens in non-DOD agencies.

    Vern, I meant to tell you the above, too.  

    However, for acquisitions subject to the DFARS, one cannot rely on the FAR definition of COR and coverage of COR's at FAR 1.604 alone to validate the argument that  "an administrative function could include signing a change order, a supplemental agreement, a stop work order or a suspension of work order, or a change to GFP. Again, an agency head or HCA may authorize an individual or class deviation from FAR 1.602-2(d)(5)."

    Hopefully, we are  past any argument that a COR in DOD can sign a new contract.  A COR doesn't sign new contracts. Contracting Officers sign new contracts.  A COR is assigned to or designated  to a contract or contracts.

    As for DOD Standard for COR certification, see DOD Instruction 5000.72; for designation as a COR to a contract or contracts, see  DFARS 201.602-70  and the following:

    252.201-7000. CONTRACTING OFFICER'S REPRESENTATIVE (DEC 1991)

    • (a)  Definition. “Contracting officer's representative” means an individual designated in accordance with subsection 201.602-2 of the Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation Supplement and authorized in writing by the contracting officer to perform specific technical or administrative functions.

    • (b) If the Contracting Officer designates a contracting officer's representative (COR), the Contractor will receive a copy of the written designation. It will specify the extent of the COR's authority to act on behalf of the contracting officer. The COR is not authorized to make any commitments or changes that will affect price, quality, quantity, delivery, or any other term or condition of the contract. (End of Clause)"

    Sorry about the formatting. I'm typing this post on an iPhone which defies my attempts to control fonts, font size, quotations and other formatting.  

    And Don is or should be aware of DOD policies for COR standards and designation policies.  The DOD Instruction includes direction to DAU for COR training curricula. 

    If we aren't debating about COR's in DOD, then there isn't anything to argue about concerning other agencies.  They might be all over the place.

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    joel hoffman

    Mar 3, 2017 · 9y ago

    Vern Edwards said:

    Joel:  If the DFARS prohibits what we're talking about, so be it.

    Vern, thanks for the clarification, which I believe you added sometime during or after my above response to your post. 

    By the way, if you think that the DAWIA qualifications for the appointment of KO's and ACO's in Title 10 and DOD refs and supplements are laughable, you ought to be splitting a gut guffawing at the apparent lack of stated qualification requirements during your searches for Non-DOD activities.

    If  KO can simply appoint another person to be a KO to sign contracts and mod prices and other contract requirements thereto, as taxpayers we both ought to be crying.

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Mar 3, 2017 · 9y ago

    Joel:

    Here are key parts of the post that opened this thread:

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    I have recently transitioned to a new agency and have been surprised by a local policy that states "As a general rule, the contract specialist originating a document signs it as the CO (Contracting Officer) after all required reviews."  In practice, this language is cited supporting the fact that a specialist (non-warrant holder) would actually sign contract actions, or a contracting officer may sign actions over their delegated warrant authority.  Now, one of the levels of review required would be from a Contracting Officer that holds the required warrant authority and they would be required to sign the review forms necessary.  Though, again, the ultimate government signatory may not actually have a warrant that covers the value of the action…

    In speaking with our local policy official, it was explained that the rationale behind this approach is that the contract specialist whom is involved with the acquisition has a far greater knowledge base about the acquisition than a Contracting Officer whose only contribution is their warrant authority.

    That's about all we know about the policy that prompted this discussion. This was my response after confirming that the policy was in writing:

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    If they've issued a written policy, then what difference does it make what any of us thinks about it? What are you going to do if someone tells you it's a bad idea or that it's "illegal" or an unauthorized deviation from FAR (as someone almost certainly will)? I'm not trying to be rude, but my advice is to quit worrying or even wondering about it.

    Todd Davis was the first to object:

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    Only contracting officers can enter into and sign contracts on behalf of the Government and must be appointed in accordance with FAR 1.603 unless and HCA or above.  The appointing authority must give the contracting officer clear instructions regarding the limits his or her authority and the appointment must be in writing on a SF 1402.  A contracting officer cannot appoint another person as a contracting officer or delegate their authority to sign a contract, unless that CO is also the appointing authority for your office.

    Don Mansfield, Matthew Fleharty, and Retread argued that the policy was not prohibited. Boof joined with Todd in arguing against. Nobody argued that the policy was good or wise. I then posted to quote the FAR definition of contracting officer, which set you off.

    I think that an agency can deviate from the procedures in FAR Subpart 1.6 for selection and appointment of COs, on an individual or class basis, if properly authorized to do so. That’s all I have to say about the policy in question.

    To me, the procedures in FAR 1.6 are matters of form rather than substance. The ceremonial aspects of CO appointment (e.g., the use of SF 1402) and COR delegation are not important to me. An SF 1402 is a crown, but it does not make the bearer a king. What concerns me is how well the bearer understands their work and how well they do it. Most agencies do not have especially high standards in that regard. The DAWIA standards are not high. And in most agencies, including DOD agencies, COs are nothing special. Contracting work is less professional now than it is administrative and clerical. Not many COs are program business managers.

    "O ceremony, show me but thy worth!"

    Sad.

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    C Culham

    Mar 3, 2017 · 9y ago

    Don Mansfield said:

    The OP did not say that he was in DoD, so I'm only paying attention to what the FAR says.

    Vern Edwards said:

    I think that an agency can deviate from the procedures in FAR Subpart 1.6 for selection and appointment of COs, on an individual or class basis, if properly authorized to do so.

    The above quotes should be a hint to the OP.  Before accepting merely what the FAR says its agency supplements, and individual delegations must be considered as well.   The FAR does allow the delegation as supported in this thread but experience will suggest that agencies could very well limit or otherwise prohibit the ability of the CO to delegate below their level.   Just like the DFARS matter to DoD agency supplements matter to civilian agencies.

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    joel hoffman

    Mar 3, 2017 · 9y ago

    The OP didn't say that they aren't in DOD. Therefore I responded with respect to DOD. 

    If a DOD KO delegated such authority described in the initial post, they should lose their Warrant immediately for remedial training.

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    Guest PepeTheFrog

    Mar 3, 2017 · 9y ago

    PepeTheFrog wishes more contributors would be willing to post, "Thanks for pointing out that reference-- I retract my earlier statement and now I understand this issue better."

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Mar 3, 2017 · 9y ago

    joel hoffman said:

    If a DOD KO delegated such authority described in the initial post, they should lose their Warrant immediately for remedial training.

    Not if her office authorized the procedure.

    Dammit, Joel, you just won't accept the possibllity that the procedure could be authorized, EVEN IN DOD! I see nothing in the DFARS that prohibits a deviation from DFARS Subpart 201.6. Do you? If so, tell me where. Chapter and verse.

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    joel hoffman

    Mar 3, 2017 · 9y ago

    C Culham said:

    The above quotes should be a hint to the OP.  Before accepting merely what the FAR says its agency supplements, and individual delegations must be considered as well.   The FAR does allow the delegation as supported in this thread but experience will suggest that agencies could very well limit or otherwise prohibit the ability of the CO to delegate below their level.   Just like the DFARS matter to DoD agency supplements matter to civilian agencies.

    Carl, I agree with you.  It appears here that "local policy" appears to be questionable, hence the reason for the OP.  If you are newly assigned to an agency, don't rely on advice here only based upon the FAR and speculation that someone MIGHT have some approved deviation from policy, acquisition regulations, etc. to informally delegate contracting officer authority to a nonwarranted person or to waive the limits on the other person's warrant. 

     I see that the OP said that they researched the agency supplement.  Their agency may have other policies, procedures and rules for warranting KO's and for delegating KO authority. Also find out what your agency's policies are if they aren't in your FAR Supplement.  

    The excuse that the KO delegated authority to a contract specialist to sign a contract because they were more familiar with the details and all the KO contributed was a review approval looks ridiculous to me.  

    I have negotiated new contracts, mods, claims, termination settlements, takeover agreements, conducted source selections, etc. over a period of more than 45 years.  I never had a PCO, TCO or ACO tell me to sign their contract or modification because I knew more than they did about the action.  Of course I did but they were ultimately responsible for the action. 

    We always had requirements for oversight and review of pre-negotiations objectives, source selection plans,   estimates, positions, negotiation memoranda, recommendations, etc. for a reasonably qualified contracting officer to supervise prior to, during and after and to make the final decision to approve and sign the contract action.

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    joel hoffman

    Mar 3, 2017 · 9y ago

    Don't swear at me, Vern.  Goodbye.

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Mar 3, 2017 · 9y ago

    I already did swear at you. I KNEW you didn't have a reference.

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    I have negotiated new contracts, mods, claims, termination settlements, takeover agreements, conducted source selections, etc. over a period of more than 45 years.  I never had a PCO, TCO or ACO tell me to sign their contract or modification because I knew more than they did about the action.  Of course I did but they were ultimately responsible for the action. 

    We always had requirements for oversight and review of pre-negotiations objectives, source selection plans,   estimates, positions, negotiation memoranda, recommendations, etc. for a reasonably qualified contracting officer to supervise prior to, during and after and to make the final decision to approve and sign the contract action.

    Who cares what you did in the past? That was then. This is now. How can you criticize a policy that you know so little about, of which you know nothing more than what was conveyed by a few sentences from someone new to the agency? Agencies have adopted all sorts of innovations, some good, some bad. Why criticize before you know all of the facts? That kind of thing is what makes innovation difficult.

    DOD is big, with many contracting offices. Who knows who is doing what?

    Yes, goodbye. The dead horse has rotted.

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    joel hoffman

    Mar 3, 2017 · 9y ago

    I was drafting my post while someone  made an angry, insulting demand for me to justify how some "local office policy" could not deviate from DFARS 201.6,  Of course I couldn't respond to it. I didn't see it then and have no inclination to now.

    I don't have to justify how a "local office" could not obtain a waiver from agency or government wide policy.  The OP already said that they didn't see any such agency policy.  

    How about somebody showing me how a "local policy" waiver request would logically be approved for the reasons cited in the original post?

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    justin.wilson

    Mar 3, 2017 · 9y ago

    So I will say that my agency is non-DOD.  And I do know that other offices in my agency do not have this same policy.  That combined with not finding any policy regarding this practice from any level above the office tells me that there is not an agency level policy to do so.

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    Guest Vern Edwards

    Mar 3, 2017 · 9y ago

    joel hoffman said:

    I was drafting my post while someone  made an insulting demand for me to justify how some "local office"" policy" could not deviate from DFARS 201.6,  the issue in this thread.  Of course I couldn't respond to it. I didn't see it then and have no inclination to now.

    I don't have to justify how a "local office" could not obtain a waiver from agency or government wide policy.  The OP already said that they didn't see any such agency policy.  

    How about somebody showing me how a "local policy" waiver request would logically be approved for the reasons cited in the original post?

    Joel:

    I apologize for insulting you. It was wrong of me to say "dammit," but I was, shall we say, exercised.

    I'm not going to show you anything. I say that the procedures in FAR Subpart 1.6 (and DFARS Subpart 201.6) are subject to authorized deviation. That is demonstrably true from the plain language of the regulation. I don't argue for such a course of action, only for recognition that such a course of action is possible, so I am not going to make a mock argument on behalf of such a course of action. But I can think of reasons why delegating signature authority would be helpful and even necessary, which is why, with HCA approval, I delegated change order authority to certain field personnel while I was with DOE. While my agency was not subject to FAR, our own regulations included identical rules about selection and appointment of COs. The HCA, a knowledgeable and respected man, had no problem with the idea. Neither did HQ DOE. Colleagues were shocked when I did it. It worked wonderfully well.

    You clearly don't like the idea and have raised several arguments against it. I don't mind that you don't like it, but you ought to at least acknowledge that it's not against the law. The acquisition workforce has been criticized for not thinking critically and creatively, and for not being innovative, and I agree with those criticisms. Innovation is not made easier by the bureaucratic reflex to reject unorthodox plans of action and to criticize those who proffer them. The reflexive "No" is the greatest force for the status quo in our business. Another is the tendency to confuse convention with command or with perfection. Yet another is the tortuous interpretation of regulations in search of a prohibition. I have been on the receiving end of all of that during my career. Fortunately, I was usually able to overcome it. I am not easily deterred by bureaucracy.

    A final thought--if you go to work in a new place and can't live with the way they do things, leave as quickly as possible. I have done that, and it was a great relief, to me and to them.

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    Retreadfed

    Mar 3, 2017 · 9y ago

    Joel, I am not sure I follow some of what you are writing.  Are you saying that for purposes of the definition of contracting officer in 2.101, the only person to whom a contracting officer can delegate some of his/her authority is  a COR?  If that is what you are saying, what is the basis for that statement?

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    joel hoffman

    Mar 4, 2017 · 9y ago

    Retreadfed said:

    Joel, I am not sure I follow some of what you are writing.  Are you saying that for purposes of the definition of contracting officer in 2.101, the only person to whom a contracting officer can delegate some of his/her authority is  a COR?  If that is what you are saying, what is the basis for that statement?

    No, I did not say that.  There are all sorts of personnel who perform functions and may interact with a contractor. 

    It is explained very well in Formation of Government Contracts as well as Administration of Government Contracts. 

    Keep in mind the context of the Original post as well a the title of the thread. It is a local office policy.  The HCA or Agency Head would likely be the authority to approve a deviation to allow a KO under a local office policy to delegate awards of contracts to someone because the non warranted person or warranted person awarding the contract above the limits of their warrant knows more about the action than the KO. We don't know what the Agency level appointment standards and procedures are. See also the OP's latest clarification of the situation.  They are unaware of any Agency level deviation.

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    Retreadfed

    Mar 4, 2017 · 9y ago

    Thanks for the clarification.

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    joel hoffman

    Apr 4, 2017 · 9y ago

    On 3/3/2017 at 0:43 PM, Vern Edwards said:

    ...But I can think of reasons why delegating signature authority would be helpful and even necessary, which is why, with HCA approval, I delegated change order authority to certain field personnel while I was with DOE. While my agency was not subject to FAR, our own regulations included identical rules about selection and appointment of COs. The HCA, a knowledgeable and respected man, had no problem with the idea. Neither did HQ DOE. Colleagues were shocked when I did it. It worked wonderfully well.

    You clearly don't like the idea and have raised several arguments against it. I don't mind that you don't like it, but you ought to at least acknowledge that it's not against the law.

    Just to clarify, I love the idea of delegating change order (and other) authority to assigned warranted field office Administrative Contracting Officers (who are also engineers) on construction contracts.  The USACE has used ACO's Since FAR and used Resident Contracting Officers in the pre-FAR days.

     I was an ACO. Before, during and after that, I negotiated new contracts, changes, claims, terminations and takeover agreements, evaluated entitlement and merit of claims, etc. for KO's and for ACO's.  

    Besides having to be Registered Professional Engineers or Registered Architects, ACO's have to meet the DAWIA educational and experience prerequisites.  They must take the required DAWIA training. They must complete bi-yearly continuing education, yearly ethics and appropriation law refreshers.

    To maintain their P.E. or R.A. Licenses, they must complete yearly continuing education requirements.

    Many are also supervisors, so must take required supervisory training and refreshers. 

    As a consulting engineer in private industry, I designed, wrote and administered construction contracts.

    I've negotiated REA's and claims since retirement.

    I also led or supervised the source selection process for all construction and design-build contracts and for several service contracts in a large USACE District office for about 8 years, working directly for the KOs, who were the source selection authority. 

    I love the idea!

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    C Culham

    Apr 4, 2017 · 9y ago

    On ‎3‎/‎3‎/‎2017 at 10:43 AM, Vern Edwards said:

    While my agency was not subject to FAR, our own regulations included identical rules about selection and appointment of COs.

    It was not then and is not now a regulation, it was and is a policy and from my experienced view policy is more easily manipulated to make the viewed impossible a possibility.    Seems using such a statement to support why an alternative to a process embedded in regulation, specifically the CFR, could be  possible is like comparing apples and oranges.

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    Guest Seeker

    Apr 4, 2017 · 9y ago

    We're in an episode of "the walking dead."

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    apsofacto

    Apr 4, 2017 · 9y ago

    I hope its not the one with the cannibal hipsters.  That's when I quit watching.

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    joel hoffman

    Apr 5, 2017 · 9y ago

    I didn't mean to re-open the original debate. I was just clarifying that I'm not against the idea of the KO delegating some contractual signature authority to on-site field personnel.  The USACE has done it for years.  

    Vern is absolutely correct that it works wonderfully well and that there are reasons why it is helpful and necessary.

    I remember some NAVFAC personnel who also attended the first USACE contract administration class that I took in 1981. Among other comparisons between the two engineering and construction agencies,  they were bemoaning the fact that the Navy didn't use Resident Contracting Officers.  They said each and every modification had to go back to their HDQTRS at the Navy Yard in DC for the KO to issue.  There were no FEDEX, UPS, etc., email, internet or other electronic correspondence methods available to them other than Western Union, Telex, etc. 

    They stated a wish that they could also have Resident Contracting Officers to issue changes, negotiate , settle and and issue mods for (at that time) up to $10k or $25k, plus modify the completion date for no fault reasons or for compensatory time extensions within the RCO's dollar authority limit. In addition, the field office staffs generally negotiated most changes, including those above the RCO/ACO warrant level. Not everywhere but in most Districts.

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