Applicability of Intercompany Costs in Indirect Bases

Started by CASNEWB · Jan 6, 2021 · 5 replies

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    CASNEWB

    Jan 6, 2021 · 5y ago

    Original post

    Hi,

    A question/clarification regarding the inclusion of intercompany costs in various indirect bases.  In this example, there are two organizations within the company (we'll call them A and B).  Organization A performs the work (all labor); and fully burdened costs, including fringe, overhead and G&A are transferred to a project in Organization B.  Those costs are received by Organization B as subcontract costs and burdened with G&A.  Is there a requirement to exclude the costs from the bases of either organization to avoid double counting?  Are there specific CAS clauses that address this?  In reading through CAS 8.410, it appears that there is specific guidance that they should NOT be excluded from the performing organization's base (8.410.2.a).  But I haven't seen anything that addresses the applicability in the base of the receiving organization.  

    Thanks for your input.

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    govtacct02

    Jan 15, 2021 · 5y ago

    Are you a contractor or a government buyer?  What is the G&A base for the selling or buying entity?  (Total Cost Input, Value-added, single element?)  We need more information to be able to help you.   Also, it appears you are looking at the DCAA Contract Audit Manual.  CAS 410 can be accessed at https://www.acquisition.gov/chapter_99/part-9904-cost-accounting-standards.

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    govtacct02

    Jan 15, 2021 · 5y ago

    Also - are you performing any contracts that are subject to Full Coverage by the Cost Accounting Standards?

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    Neil Roberts

    Jan 16, 2021 · 5y ago

    On 1/6/2021 at 8:35 AM, CASNEWB said:

    A question/clarification regarding the inclusion of intercompany costs in various indirect bases.  In this example, there are two organizations within the company (we'll call them A and B).  Organization A performs the work (all labor); and fully burdened costs, including fringe, overhead and G&A are transferred to a project in Organization B.  Those costs are received by Organization B as subcontract costs and burdened with G&A.  Is there a requirement to exclude the costs from the bases of either organization to avoid double counting?  Are there specific CAS clauses that address this?  In reading through CAS 8.410, it appears that there is specific guidance that they should NOT be excluded from the performing organization's base (8.410.2.a).  But I haven't seen anything that addresses the applicability in the base of the receiving organization.

    I believe this Defense Acquisition University (DAU) article may lead you to your own conclusion. https://www.dau.edu/aap/pages/ArticleContent.aspx?itemid=18146

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    here_2_help

    Jan 17, 2021 · 5y ago

    Neil Roberts said:

    I believe this Defense Acquisition University (DAU) article may lead you to your own conclusion. https://www.dau.edu/aap/pages/ArticleContent.aspx?itemid=18146

    As many WIFCON posters and readers know, when you review Ask a Professor responses, caveat emptor.

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    here_2_help

    Jan 19, 2021 · 5y ago

    I will add that govtacct02 asked pertinent questions, the answers to which are required for a good response to the OP. The fact that almost two weeks have passed with no response to those questions is disappointing.

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