Task Order Issued Against GSA's Existing IDIQ Contract

Started by 1102_InquiringMind · Feb 10, 2022 · 13 replies

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    1102_InquiringMind

    Feb 10, 2022 · 4y ago

    Original post

    I recently transferred to another government agency working in the procurement office. I was assigned a task order issued against an existing IDIQ (GSA) Contract. The task order was awarded as a fixed price with labor hour CLINS for a base and 12 option periods. In familiarizing myself with the task order award, I noticed that the fixed price CLINS were incrementally funded. Additionally, Section G of the task order includes ordering procedures that states, "orders will be issued and the vendor shall provide price quotes to the Government when required." Please help me understand how FFP CLINS can be incrementally funded and how a task order issued against an existing GSA IDIQ Contract be treated as if it is a BPA. Additionally, can a task order have a period of performance beyond 5-years? 

    I am sure this topic may have been covered, but I wasn't able to locate anything on the threaded discussions. I would appreciate any feedback you can provide.

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    ji20874

    Feb 10, 2022 · 4y ago

    The Defense Department allows for incremental funding of FFP contracts through the use of the clause at DFARS 252.232-7007, Limitation of Government's Obligation.  Other agencies may have similar approaches, or may be in the wild west of government contracting.

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    formerfed

    Feb 10, 2022 · 4y ago

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    Additionally, can a task order have a period of performance beyond 5-years?

    Check the terms of the GSA contract.  Usually they are, at least with GSA awards

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    1102_InquiringMind

    Feb 11, 2022 · 4y ago

    ji20874 & formerfed: Your responses are greatly appreciated. I did come across DOD's clause at DFARS 252.232-7007, as well as clauses from other agencies. I didn't want to raise my concerns about the various flaws I've discovered with this task order requirement without having supporting information, because I'm new to this agency.

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    ji20874

    Feb 11, 2022 · 4y ago

    I provided some information that might be helpful.  However, I do not suggest that everything is proper in your situation.  There is a lot of sloppiness across the Government in this matter.

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    1102_InquiringMind

    Feb 12, 2022 · 4y ago

    ji20874: I do agree that there are a lot of sloppiness across the Government. I am just trying to find the best way to approach this. It is going to be a bit of a challenge.

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    Vern Edwards

    Feb 12, 2022 · 4y ago

    On 2/10/2022 at 12:41 PM, 1102_InquiringMind said:

    Please help me understand how FFP CLINS can be incrementally funded...

    @Inquiring MindWhat don't you understand? You appear to think it is improper. If so, why do you think that?

    On 2/10/2022 at 12:41 PM, 1102_InquiringMind said:

    Additionally, can a task order have a period of performance beyond 5-years?

    You seem to doubt it. Why?

    Why do you think those practices are "flaws"? Is it because you've not seen them done before?

    What rules do you think those practices violate? Please cite them by specific reference. Chapter and verse.

    Maybe your thinking is based on misapprehensions or limited experience. We don't know anything about you and can't know that until you explain yourself. It's hard to explain something to someone you don't know and who has not explained their thinking.

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    1102_InquiringMind

    Feb 22, 2022 · 4y ago

    Vern,

    I’ve been in the 1102 field for a little over 3 years and am looking for feedback on this WIFCON platform. I don’t think that incrementally funding FFP CLINS are improper; I just haven't seen it done at the agencies where I've worked. Furthermore, the agencies for which I have worked included language in their FAR supplements indicating when FFP CLINS can be incrementally funded. As far as thinking that "those practices are flaws", I was referring to some of the flaws I noticed while analyzing the task order file. Sorry for not explaining my reasoning; contracting is a very challenging field to master, and I am still learning.

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    Vern Edwards

    Feb 22, 2022 · 4y ago

    @1102_InquiringMindWould you like some reading materials on incremental funding? The FAR coverage is both sparse and somewhat confusing.

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    1102_InquiringMind

    Feb 23, 2022 · 4y ago

    Vern,

    Any reading material you could provide on incremental funding would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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    Vern Edwards

    Feb 23, 2022 · 4y ago

    @1102_InquiringMindWarning: This is a very confusing topic. FAR coverage is inadequate and FAR 32.703-1 is a little misleading. Take a look at these for a start.

    GAO, Budget Issues: Incremental Funding of Capital Asset Acquisitions (2001), https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-01-432r.pdf

    Congressional Research Service, Defense Procurement: Full Funding Policy—Background, Issues, and Options for Congress (2007), https://www.everycrsreport.com/files/20070615_RL31404_399717ad5f8fab73080113e940e7c8b8bcf4d52c.pdf

    Congressional Research Service, Navy Ship Procurement: Alternative Funding Approaches - Background and Options for Congress (2007), https://www.everycrsreport.com/files/20070615_RL32776_be6219cb88e53694e139151d5bc6802888ded554.pdf

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    1102_InquiringMind

    Feb 23, 2022 · 4y ago

    Vern, thank you! I will take a look at these for a start.

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    Vern Edwards

    Feb 23, 2022 · 4y ago

    @1102_InquiringMindJust a heads up: budgeting people and contracting people often use the term "incremental funding" to refer to different but related procedures.

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    1102_InquiringMind

    Mar 2, 2022 · 4y ago

    Vern, thanks for the heads up!👍

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