NON-COMMERCIAL V. COMMERCIAL?
Started by nfm2012 · Mar 28, 2012 · 5 replies
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nfm2012
Mar 28, 2012 · 14y ago
All:
New poster looking for some insight... I work in IT Contracting for a civilian agency and we are having some difficulty persuading "decision-makers" that a requirement covering software development, modernizations and operations and maintenance is non-commercial work... the pervasive theory is that becuase there are labor cats for the work it is commercial... the applications are custom for govt... and becuase there are labor cats for the work in the commercial marketplace only FFP, LH or T&M contract types can be supported... and this position is supported by the CI definition in FAR 2.101 (speciifically part 6 of the definition).
I've argued the CI definition and am seeking any other ideas as how to push my position that work is non-commercial
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C Culham
Mar 28, 2012 · 14y ago
So have you considered FAR Part 12.102(g)?
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Guest Vern Edwards
Mar 29, 2012 · 14y ago
Why do you think the work is not commercial?
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nfm2012
Mar 30, 2012 · 14y ago
For a couple of reasons-
This is a custom-built software system only used by the government. It will never be used commercially, nor will any modifications to it, make it available for commercial use. Even though there is a listing of labor cats for the positions, there is no "commercial" knowledge of the systems... For example, if the government needs a bathroom built in a faciltiy, that knowledge is commercially known and can be done (one would hope quickly), versus the government asking a vendor to develop, modernize and enhance a system they have never seen, touched or ever worked on... industry wouldn't be clamoring for technical information... plus with software development the requirement is very fluid in terms of week to week needs and changes... hope this further clarifies my position...
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civ_1102
Mar 30, 2012 · 14y ago
"...plus with software development the requirement is very fluid in terms of week to week needs and changes"
Scope creep on a software development project? I am shocked! I think you might want to do some more in depth market research on software development. Also, why do you not want the project to be procured as a commercial item?
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Guest Vern Edwards
Mar 30, 2012 · 14y ago
You emphasize the software function. So, are you buying software, or are you buying software development, maintenance, and operations services? If you are buying services, how does the software function alter the nature of the processes of software development, maintenance, and operations? How does it differ from commercial development, maintzenance and operations services? Companies develop, maintain, and operate new sotware systems for complex commercial funtions all the time. Familiarity with the history of sotware development would make that abundantly clear. What makes your project different? Programming language? Number of lines of code? Something else? If you want to make your case, make your case.